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Airport Plan - Questions & Answers - Latest Update 2/3/04

 

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN,
REZONING AND RUNWAY EXTENSION

Taken from the Public Information Meetings*

*This document is a work in progress. As the official record becomes available more questions and answers will be added.


Question 1-
Can we expect any kind of return on our money with only a few international charters coming in to PIE?

Pinellas County was required by the FAA to perform a Benefit Cost Analysis following Federal guidelines established by the Federal Department of Transportation. The Benefit Cost Analysis clearly confirmed that the benefits of extending the runway exceed the costs by a factor of 4:1 up to 10:1. This allows Federal participation and therefore the Benefit Cost Analysis was approved by the FAA.

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Question 2-
Please do not destroy the greenspace around the airport and specifically the greenspace between the airport and Feather Sound. I cannot believe that the environmental survey summarized “no significant impact”. Additional noise, additional airline/helicopter emissions, and the reduction of greenspace WILL have a negative impact on the environment waterways and trees and wildlife. It is not practical or logical to think otherwise. The birds are beautiful and will not exist well, if at all, without the trees. Why do we need to grow the airport? The benefits are potential—not tangible. We do not need more office buildings in our County. Use MacDill for any military

The Airport is an enterprise department within Pinellas County Government and is run as a business. Also, the Federal Government requires the Airport to make an operating profit to sustain growth within the National Plan of Integrated Airport Systems (NPIAS).

Pinellas County is a leader in Environmental land preservation having set aside sensitive land as early as the 1970’s. Our goal is to sustain to economic development while nurturing our natural resources.

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Question 3-
This plan “stinks” why are we “the public” looking to expand a secondary airport? The St. Pete airport is voting to close its airport. The only benefits to this expansion are for cargo type carriers. Let corporate America earn its profits somewhere else. Why are Pinellas County residents expected to be burdened so corporate America (U.P.S. etc.) can further prosper? Since when did corporate America vote? Lose the plan.

98% of Pinellas County companies have fewer than 100 employees and 97 % of county companies who ship by air have fewer than 100 employees, according to the 2002 Business Assistance Survey of 10,000 businesses. The companies that ship their products by air are not major corporations.

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Question 4-
Please post on the website: How many people will be added to the ranks of Americans who are unemployed if this airport is closed? This site would NOT make a good mall, as someone suggested earlier.

The Airport and on-airport tenants are Pinellas County’s 8th largest employer. There are currently 1,648 people employed at the airport, and there are at least 3,586 jobs at or near the airport that are directly related to the Airport’s aviation facilities, their tenants, and the passengers that arrive and depart the Airport. We can assume Coast Guard personnel would be reassigned, but the prospects for other employees are less certain.

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Question 5-
Please give specific answers to specific questions: who are the airlines that provided the letters of intent, when were the letters written. If the airport does not increase revenue, does all of the shortfall go to the taxpayers? How many signatures are needed for this to become an item on a public ballot?

The Airlines that provided the letters of intent are Southeast Airlines (November 28, 2001), Condor Airlines (November 28, 2001), Martin Air (September 24, 2001), and Travel City Direct (March 14, 2002). The Airport will use money from its general fund to cover any revenue shortfalls.

A petition containing signatures of 10% of the registered electors countywide would be required to initiate a ballot measure.

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Question 6-
If there are 24 flights a day that generate 1600 jobs, how does the lengthened runways double the number of jobs (1735)? Does that double the number of flights per day?

New international visitors associated with Airport improvements will generate an additional 1,728 jobs in 2005, rising to 2,889 in 2008. Capital spending at the Airport including ongoing tenant investments and the improvements incorporated in the Airport master plan will generate another 568 jobs per year on average.
Source: Infrastructure Management Group – Economic Impact Analysis

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Question 7-
What percentage of Carillon and Gateway are unused?

The mid-county overall vacancy rate is 7.5%. The office vacancy rate for Pinellas is 10.9%, compared to 16.1% for the Tampa Bay Area.
Source: Colliers-Arnold Market Report Q1, Q2 2003

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Question 8-
What about the berm idea? That sounds like an excellent buffer that would allay many of the concerns regarding noise.

No analysis has been conducted to study the noise reduction by building a berm. We will look into this as a possibility of further reducing noise to the Feather Sound community.

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Question 9-
Has any consideration been given to cost of defending against or compensating property owners who make claims for constructive condemnation as a result of diminution of value of property? Is the Commission aware that right now planes are apparently violating flight path directives when they fly over Safety Harbor you cannot hear? If traffic at the airport is only at 1995 levels, what justifies expansion? Are you aware of the eagle’s nest in south Safety Harbor and whether encroachment by airplanes is an issue?

The FAA in conjunction with other Federal agencies, established guidelines of 65 day/night level (DNL) as the level at which noise is considered objectionable for residential land uses. Therefore, these properties are not considered harmed by the noise levels by FAA criteria. We intend to increase monitoring and enforcement of noise abatement procedures.

The Airport monitors and enforces existing Noise Abatement Procedures to alleviate noise over Safety Harbor.

Pinellas County was required by the FAA to perform a Benefit Cost Analysis following Federal guidelines established by the Federal Department of Transportation. The Benefit Cost Analysis clearly confirmed that the benefits of extending the runway exceeding the costs by a factor of 4:1 up to 10:1. This allows Federal participation and therefore the Benefit Cost Analysis was approved by the FAA.

Yes, we are aware of the eagle’s nest in South Safety Harbor and Feather Sound. Encroachment by airplanes is not an issue.

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Question 10-
Where does the airport director live? Does he know, personally, how noise impacts the neighbors around the Airport. We understand he lives where?

Yes, he is aware of the noise impacts and concerns of the residents surrounding the Airport. The interim Airport Director resides in Odessa, Florida

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Question 11-
The noise level is already too loud. When Coast Guard planes take off from the North-South runway my windows on the north and west side vibrate, even the glasses in my kitchen rattle! I have requested Pinellas County Environmental Management to measure the noise from the airport but was refused by the office. How can I get Environmental Management to measure airport noise behind my home? And when? Is there a noise abatement task force for the airport and does it have any enforcement powers? Can time restrictions be implemented between 11pm and 7am and enforced!

Although aircraft are exempt from the County Noise Ordinance, we will request the Director of Environmental Management measure the noise in your community and report back to the County Administrator.

There is a 22-member Aircraft Noise Abatement Task Force appointed by the County Administrator. The Task Force does not have enforcement powers. The Airport does not have the authority to implement curfews. This final authority resides with the FAA.

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Question 12-
There are many factors that influence people being attracted to an area. Certainly money/economics is a variable; however, I worry that being so densely populated (most in state) that there is no longer a value placed in the aesthetics of the area—parks, recreation areas are scarce, particularly in mid-county. Why not place some value in the beauty of our environment? Money is not all there is to life!!! Flowers, grass, trees, picnic tables, etc might help promote and nicer people in the area. What are the Commissioners’ opinions about environmental concerns other than economic impact? Why would people want to spend time in a concrete county? What about noise from Coast Guard choppers? Late evening is common. Can they go to MacDill? Big NOISE Problem. Can you spell green space? Does money make the world go around? Should it!?

The Coast Guard does utilize MacDill for approximately 30% of their training exercises to help alleviate noise to adjacent residential areas.

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Question 13-
Why wasn’t there a sign-in? Shouldn’t the commissioners be aware of what how many folks in their districts are concerned? Don’t they care? No one is arguing to close the airport. It’s great that they have a current economic impact. Does not justify or show need for expansion or a taking to the residential neighbors. Please control the noise---great that we can track it, but doesn’t help our children get a good night sleep. Provide answers to the business questions asked by the people at the meeting. We elect you; we choose you to represent us—how do you justify being rude and dismissive publicly to your constituents? Seems like our trust was misplaced. The letters of intent—who provided them and was it before 911? Please provide CURRENT letters of intent. Seems like 4 is not enough to base the entire plan on and there is no backup plan. We want the opportunity to vote on this issue. Please provide your data regarding the noise to the PhD in Engineering who spoke. Please publicly respond and provide answers to the questions regarding flood plain and other issues, such as traffic impact.

Pinellas County was required by the FAA to perform a Benefit Cost Analysis following Federal guidelines established by the Federal Department of Transportation. The Benefit Cost Analysis clearly confirmed that the benefits of extending the runway exceeding the costs by a factor of 4:1 up to 10:1. This allows Federal participation and therefore the Benefit Cost Analysis was approved by the FAA.

The Airlines that provided the letters of intent are Southeast Airlines (November 28, 2001), Condor Airlines (November 28, 2001), Martin Air (September 24, 2001), and Travel City Direct (March 14, 2002). The Airport will use money from its general fund to cover any revenue shortfalls.

The Engineer was provided with answers from the Airport’s consultant at the conclusion of the presentation.

Properties, which lie in flood zones, are not precluded from development. The designation of the flood zone indicates that waters may “rise” on a site and requires buildings’ lowest floors to be elevated above the base flood level. Many of the developed properties in the vicinity of the airport lie in flood zones.

Increased development will result in increased traffic. While we are not sure what the writer was refereeing to as the “49th Street & 275 interchange” , we do know that a connection between Roosevelt Boulevard/Ulmerton Road corridor south to 118th Avenue and on to I275, is planned. The project is in design and the County is seeking ways to accelerate this project through gas tax funds. While the State Department of Transportation has projected this project be constructed in the year 2012, improvements at the Airport which generate additional traffic will be regulated by “concurrency management”, which require transportation facilities to be available or to come on line within 3 years of the physical development. Transportation facilities must be available to accommodate new development.

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Question 14-
How can Board of County Commissioners approve IPD zoning change until drainage and roadways are approved as required by the IPD zoning definition? Where will the cars for the projected visitors be parked? You have not described this. What is the penalty paid by violators of the noise abatement rules? How do you incorporate our comments into Master Plan prior to FDOT and FAA review?

Rezoning does not require detailed roadway and drainage plans among others things a rezoning review considers whether the types and bulk of land uses being proposed are appropriate for the property in question and whether the infrastructure (road, drainage) is or can reasonably be made to accommodate the proposed development. Detailed plans for drainage and road improvements are reviewed later as a part of Site Plan Review prior to any physical development being placed on the ground. We will be showing a conceptual runway and drainage layout during the rezoning process when it occurs.

The Airport is currently expanding its parking facility by 650 additional stalls to accommodate increased demand.

There are not financial penalties for noise abatement violations.

These questions and comments will be incorporated into the Master Plan prior to FDOT and FAA review.

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Question 15-
Who is responsible for enforcing noise abatement levels currently in place and those proposed? What is the enforcement mechanism to catch noise abatement violators? Since the airport property is enterprise property, what other enterprise choices have you looked as a part of the master development plan? Specify the minimum buffer west of F,I,J,K & L the county can approve? In addition to distance, what physical noise barriers will be erected? What is being done by the Pinellas Economic Development to maximize with other municipalities economic development in all of Pinellas County, such as the south side of St. Petersburg?

The Airport is responsible for enforcing and monitoring noise abatement procedures. Currently Airport staff visually monitor airlines arrivals and departures to ensure compliance. We anticipate having a flight tracking system installed within 30 days to assist with ensuring compliance.

Other enterprise choices include corporate hangar development, private T-hangar development, cargo facilities, and terminal parking enhancements and future commercial development on the property opposite the terminal on Roosevelt Boulevard.

The Master Plan has not considered erecting noise barriers.

Pinellas County Economic Development works closely with county municipalities. We jointly fund the Business Assistance Partnership with eight cities and nine chambers of commerce for business retention and business assistance. Approximately 1,500 businesses will be visited this year to ascertain their business needs and how we can best assist them. We share relocation leads with our city partners to ensure uniform response, and we host a quarterly Economic Development practitioners meeting to discuss joint concerns and coordinate efforts. Pinellas County Economic Development featured the Dome Industrial property on its web site www.siliconbay.org.

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Question 16-
Please provide names and expected revenues by year of the carriers expected to use the extended runway? What air pollution control measures will be implemented after the runway extension is built? What I mean by control measures is shutting down aircraft and towing the aircraft to the airside after completing their taxi run.

The Airlines are Southeast Airlines, Condor Airlines, Martin Air, and Travel City Direct.

The environmental assessment did not find an unacceptable level of air pollution. The Department of Environmental Management does conduct regular monitoring of air quality in Pinellas County.

The Airport is working with the FAA to pursue Global Positioning System and Flight Management System Technology to extend the hours of operation for the North Bay Visual Approach Procedure.

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Question 17-
When will the Master Plan be available to the public for review prior to its approval by the BOCC? Current noise abatement includes limiting early hours in negotiating new contracts—was the economic analysis performed with a limit on hours? Will the policy to limit hours change after the plan has been approved? John Morroni has stated that the Airco Development is “not a done deal”. If this is so, then why would the BOCC not renew Airco’s lease on the golf course property?

It should be available on the web at www.fly2pie.com and at your local library on Monday September 22, 2003.

The previous lease holder did not choose to renew their lease.

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Question 18-
Airport officials say that the airport contributes $784 million to Pinellas County. How much of this money would not be contributed to Pinellas County if travelers were forced to land at Tampa International?

We cannot quantify how much money would be lost if passengers were forced to land at Tampa International Airport. However, we do know not all TIA passengers visit our county. Tampa International conducted a passenger survey in December 2000 that showed that 42% of its passengers either visit or are from Pinellas County. We cannot assume all TIA passengers visit Pinellas; over half (58%) of TIA passengers do not visit our county.

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Question 19-
The runway expansion is estimated to cost $17.5 million. I assume most of it is being paid by the taxpayers. The overall master plan for the airport calls for investing nearly ¼ billion dollars. How much of this is taxpayer money and couldn’t this money be better spent than bailing out a losing business that can’t compete with the excellence of Tampa International?

The Airport is an enterprise department within Pinellas County and is run as a business. Also, the Federal Government requires the Airport to make an operating profit to sustain growth within the National Plan of Integrated Airport Systems (NPIAS). No county taxes are used to subsidize the operation of the Airport.

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Question 20-
What tourist would not travel to Clearwater if forced to land at Tampa International? My point is: Local tourism would not suffer because of the inability to fly into Clearwater.

Our runway expansion will accommodate international charters, and it is expected that international tourism will increase as a result of the runway expansion.

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Question 21-
The only business that would benefit from an expansion of St. Pete/Clearwater Airport are the businesses in close proximity to the airport, the businesses that reside inside the airport and the airport itself.

Pinellas County Economic Development found that 72% of companies who export their products ship them by air. According to our 2002 Business Assistance Survey of 10,000 businesses. Also, the expansion is expected to greatly increase our tourism industry, and tourists typically spend their dollars throughout the county.

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Question 22-
What will be the increase in noise comparing a 727 and L10-11, a 777 and a 747?

The Environmental Assessment included larger aircraft such as an L1011 and B747 when compiling data to calculate noise contours. The results did not indicate a significant change nor did it identify future incompatible land use.

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Question 23-
How can it make economic sense to develop another airport 9 miles from the “World’s Finest” Tampa International? They have the runway lengths, the cargo capacity and all the services PIE wants to duplicate. Are tourists any more likely to vacation at Pinellas beaches if they land 9 miles closer to the beaches? Does it warrant spending A QUARTER BILLION FEDERAL DOLLARS?

St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport is a developed airport 9 miles from Tampa International Airport. The St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport does not wish to duplicate Tampa’s services, and the estimated cost to lengthen the runway is $17.5 million.

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Question 24-
What studies have been done to determine how many passengers who land at PIE are attracted to the cheap fares here but rent a car and head to Orlando anyway?

There was no study conducted to determine how many passengers are attracted by fares and rent a car to drive to Orlando. The Benefit Cost Analysis only studied potential visitors arriving at Orlando and driving to Pinellas beaches.

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Question 25-
What is the demand for office space or another industrial park in this area of Pinellas, where after 16 years, even Carillon is not fully developed? According to the July Maddox Report, the Gateway and mid-Pinellas has more than 294,091 square feet of VACANT OFFICE SPACE available PLUS another 85,000 in planned construction space available at 700 Carillon. With this glut of open, vacant office space today, how can building more of it on an open green space be sound thinking?

Airco property is the last 150-acre site for a Class A Business Park to meet future high wage jobs for Pinellas County. We absorb anywhere from a million and a half up to 3 million square feet annually.

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Question 26-
According to published reports and comments made by Commissioner Latvala, the runway extension to 10,000 feet is expected to bring in only 1 or 2 additional flights from overseas per day? How can the costs of the extension and the loss of our last remaining open space in this part of the community, possibly be justified when those flights could easily operate at TIA?

Pinellas County was required by the FAA to perform a Benefit Cost Analysis following Federal guidelines established by the Federal Department of Transportation. The Benefit Cost Analysis clearly confirmed that the benefits of extending the runway exceeding the costs by a factor of 4:1 up to 10:1. This allows Federal participation and therefore the Benefit Cost Analysis was approved by the FAA.

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Question 27-
If the county wants to generate more airport revenue, why not charge usage fees to General Aviation aircraft as it charges commercial and military aircraft? According to the airport website, there are NO landing fees charged to private aircraft.

There are very few public use airports within Florida that charge landing fees for general aviation. The Airport acquires revenue from General Aviation, Military and Commercial through fuel flowage fees.

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Question 28-
Pinellas is already the most densely populated county in Florida. According to Commissioner Stewart at the 8/19 Commissioner’s meeting, Pinellas I 97% built out—yet he continues to push for the development. At what point do we say enough growth, let’s focus on preserving our county’s “scenic beauty” and on enhancing the quality of life for those who live here? It’s a sad statement when a golf course is one of the last remaining open spaces in a community.

The County is committed to preserving open space and environmental lands. Since the mid-1970’s, the Board of County Commissioners and voters have approved funding sources to purchase hundreds of acres have been acquired for environmental preservation, retention of open space, and parklands. The County Comprehensive Plan requires that 9 acres of parkland be provided for each 1,000 residents, and the county exceeds this standard.

The parcel of land, known as Airco, was acquired by the Federal Government for future development to help financially support the Airport.

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Question 29-
If PIE receives FAA funding for the runway extension and/or the airport expansion, is the airport committed to remaining open and operational 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? Then if PIE should lose many of its operations/airlines, would the County be required to keep the airport open regardless, such as the Naples airport has had to do?

The Airport has annually received FAA Grants and is obligated to operate 24 hours per day and yes.

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Question 30-
How much local and federal money do you keep spending before you make a decision to as to whether or not a project is profitable?

The Airport has spent approximately $1 million on the Benefit Cost Analysis and the Environmental Assessment required by the FAA to justify the runway extension. The Benefit Cost Analysis determined the project is profitable.

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Question 31-
Why is it that the county needed to buy the Neighborly Senior Services offices for this expansion, then proceeded to sell them the property on the east side of the Airco Golf Course on Evergreen Ave., even though Neighborly Senior Services had already signed a lease at their 28th Street property?

The FAA Airway Facilities identified the Neighborly Senior Services as an obstruction for the installation of the new Category I Instrument Landing System. This includes a new radio localizer and approach lighting system.

The county did not own nor did it sell the property to the east side of Airco to Neighborly Senior Services. This was owned by Moog. The county did purchase the remainder of the Moog property, excluding their existing facility. This was done so green space and cultural amenities can be retained in public ownership.

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Question 32-
Please explain the correlation between the county’s Director of Real Estate, Bob Humberstone and the properties purchased by the county for this expansion.

Mr. Humberstone's duties are to manage the leasehold properties of the Airport and assure FAA guildelines are followed. The county has not purchased any property from Mr. Humberstone. He served as trustee to a family-related trust that owns a property that may be a future land acquisition of the county for additional runway safety area. At no time, will Mr. Humberstone have any involvement with the acquisition of the property should the Airport need to acquire it.

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Question 33-
According to the Environmental Assessment, the airport and surrounding land including Airco is in a flood zone and is susceptible to tidal and storm surges. Why would the county build new commercial buildings in a flood zone? Who will pay for the construction of the buildings? Will they need to be elevated due to being in the flood zone?

Properties, which lie in flood zones, are not precluded from development. The designation of the flood zone indicates that waters may “rise” on a site and requires buildings’ lowest floors to be elevated above the base flood level. Many of the developed properties in the vicinity of the airport lie in flood zones.

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Question 34-
The ICOT center is used by the county as an example of proposed properties that could be built on the Airco site. Does the IPD zoning—as proposed for Airco and the former Moog property—allow commercial establishments such as Stormans and Tuscons? If so, can we expect new nightlife noises in addition to aircraft noise? Does this mean more bars and noise on the waterfront?

The IPD zoning does allow some commercial development (up to 25% of the total floor area of the overall development). Airport officials don’t believe that such uses as nightclubs will be prime business draws at the Airco site. There will be no ‘waterfront’ land at the Airco site for development.

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Question 35-
Can the runway be extended toward Ulmerton Rd. if the once Neighborly Senior Services parcel (now zoned commercial) is not changed to Transportation zoning?

A physical expansion of the runway into the former Neighborly Services parcels would require that land to be rezoned appropriately.

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Question 36-
Can navigational equipment and lighting be installed on Airco and the once Neighborly Services parcels with the proposed IPD (sic) zoning?

The IPD zoning will allow installation of navigational equipment and lighting.

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Question 37-
Can the runway be extended without completely tearing out Airco?

Yes.

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Question 38-
Could the golf course stay and simply have the clubhouse relocated?

Yes.

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Question 39-
Has the County Commission come to a quiet agreement with the Wiggins Group from the UK become a 24-hour cargo hub comparable to one in Smyrna, TN? The Wiggins Group’s financials are weak.

No, all formal and non-formal discussions ceased by December 2000 between Pinellas County officials and the Wiggins Group. (a.k.a. Planestation) No agreement was reached.

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Question 40-
Does the Master Plan address water runoff to ensure that once Airco is bulldozed and paved, that the resident’s homes, streets, businesses, etc. will flood? Have any studies been done on this?

All land development requires site plan review by county government. Southwest Florida Water Management District, the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, and in some cases the Army Corps of Engineers also review land development. One of the primary concerns of each of these agencies is drainage. In Pinellas runoff from a site in the post development condition cannot exceed of the pre- development condition. Runoff is required to be directed to retention ponds or other holding facilities. Excess storm water from retention ponds during storm events is required to go into adequate outfalls and not flow onto neighboring properties. All developers are required to submit site plans and drainage studies during site plan review to the above referenced agencies to show how this is accomplished.

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Question 41-
The canal on the west side of Feather Sound was designed to take water runoff that is not absorbed into the surrounding ground. Is that canal intended to hold additional water once Airco and the surrounding land are developed?

The canal is an “outfall” structure to collect stormwater, which has been treated, and outfall, or deliver it to Tampa Bay. Treated stormwater from any development within the canal’s watershed will go to the canal after treatment. The canal is designed to take this stormwater runoff to the Bay.

All new development is required to treat stormwater prior to it leaving the improved site.

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Question 42-
Since the open space at Airco and the strip beside Evergreen Avenue absorbs a lot of water, is flooding likely to be a problem?


Flooding will not be a problem as a result of the development of the Airco site since adequate flood control and drainage will have to be provided in accordance with County and State guidelines.

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Question 43-
Over development has caused flooding in many areas of the county. Why does the county continue to use “Economic Development” as a reason for land development at the cost of residents’ quality of life?

While it is true that many older developments may experience flooding, all new development from the mid-1970s on must meet strict county and state guidelines designed to prevent flooding problems.

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Question 44-
What are the implications of a bigger airport on the roads in our area? All roads leading out from the airport are traffic nightmares already.
-When will the 49th Street and 275 Interchange be completed?
-If the airport expansion is completed by 2004 as proposed in the Master Plan, what is the county’s answer to handling the traffic congestion until the interchange is completed?
(These 3 questions are answered below).

Increased development will result in increased traffic. While we are not sure what the writer was refereeing to as the “49th Street & 275 interchange” , we do know that a connection between Roosevelt Boulevard/Ulmerton Road corridor south to 118th Avenue and on to I275, is planned. The project is in design and the County is seeking ways to accelerate this project through gas tax funds. While the State Department of Transportation has projected this project be constructed in the year 2012, improvements at the Airport which generate additional traffic will be regulated by “concurrency management”, which require transportation facilities to be available or to come on line within 3 years of the physical development. Transportation facilities must be available to accommodate new development.

To clarify, it is the runway extension that is projected for completion in late 2005.

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Question 45-
Why is commercial property the only way the county government can justify making the Airport profitable?

With small-hub airports, which St. Petersburg-Clearwater is, non-aviation-related property (commercial property) is essential to offset operational costs associated with the Airport. The Federal Aviation Administration encourages Airports to develop their non-aeronautical property for such purposes.

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Question 46-
Why do three out of the four letters received from the potential airlines sound contrived?

The FAA requires specific information regarding aircraft operations to be included in the letters of intent, therefore, most of the letters of intent are very similar in format and language.

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Question 47-
Why is the county so involved in commercial property transactions rather than serving the residents who voted for them as representatives?

The development of non-aeronautical property is necessary to provide the Airport with a consistent stream of revenue in order to keep the Airport in a position to support itself as an enterprise operation of Pinellas County. The County developed the Airport Industrial Parks in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s. Together the tenants in these Industrial Parks provide more than $939,000 in annual revenue to the Airport.

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Question 48-
How is it that county denies having anything to do with the parcel that was sold to Neighborly Senior Services, yet the factory at the end of Evergreen allegedly did not want to exercise their purchase option, according to Frank Aiello, Airport Engineer.

Neighborly Senior Services purchased the parcel directly from Moog Inc. In 1986, Moog Inc. purchased a 25.32-acre parcel for the construction of new facilities and optioned the remaining acreage for future industrial development. Moog Inc. eventually sold their new facilities to Micro Mo Electronics, which currently owns and occupies the facilities. The sale to Micro Mo Electronics concluded Moog’s business in the bay area except for their ownership interest in the optioned property. Moog Inc. exercised their option, as stipulated in their option agreement, and sold the property directly to Neighborly Senior Services to recoup their equity in the cost of their option payments.

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Question 49-
Why were residents told by numerous real estate agents that the area behind Evergreen Avenue was a protected buffer when they purchase their homes?

The Moog option, dated November 7, 1986, is public record. That option identifies the future use of the site as its current M-1 industrial zoning. Sometimes real estate agents make incorrect assumptions about the uses on undeveloped lands adjacent to properties they are selling. The property along the west side of the canal has been zoned industrial since 1973; however, portions of this land contain wetlands and archeological sites, and those sections will not be developed.

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Question 50-
What will be the impact on residential property values?

The Feather Sound residents have enjoyed increased property values during prior periods of adjoining commercial land development. Past trends in property values indicates that continued development of adjacent property for business parks use would not diminish residential property values.

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Question 51-
Despite the fact that the county claims that no noise testing is necessary in the affected areas due to the AVERAGE 65 decibels rule, why do residents keep complaining about noise?

Residents living outside the 65 DNL “contour areas” may be subject to aircraft noise, but not to the extent that the Federal Aviation Administration officially deems to be incompatible for residential use. The DNL is a federal standard which averages, through modeling, the noise over one day. It is not a single event standard, and therefore a higher noise event may occur on an individual basis. The county is going to review the report and take noise readings in the areas of citizen concern.

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Question 52-
What studies have determined the best buffers to airport noise for neighborhoods adjacent to the airport and /or under the flight paths?

No analysis has been conducted to study the noise reduction by building buffers. An area of wetlands and a cultural site east of Evergreen are being set aside for this buffer. Any proposed rezoning will include a designated open space buffer.

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Question 53-
How does the possibility of bringing in tourists to PIE rather than Tampa International increase quality of life or property values for the residents?

Bringing visitors directly into Pinellas County results in new jobs being created and more direct tourism dollars being invested locally. It is very likely that lower costs at PIE allow for lower cost air fares which induce travelers here, which would not otherwise travel to the Tampa Bay area.

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Question 54-
Why is the current noise abatement policy on this airport not being enforced? Why does the county think that it will be enforced any better with an expanded runway and developed property?

Noise abatement policies are currently being monitored and enforced when violations are detected. The runway expansion and development of vacant property will not affect the enforcement of noise abatement procedures. The Airport is acquiring a flight tracking system which will activate in November 2003 that will assist staff with monitoring compliance.

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Question 55-
There is allegedly a Noise Abatement Task Force. Why have we not heard from them? Why have their findings not been presented? Who is on the Task Force? How were the chosen and by whom?

On August 7, 2002, the Board of County Commissioners adopted a Resolution Establishing the Aircraft Noise Abatement Task Force to make recommendations on aircraft noise issues. Meetings are conducted quarterly, with semi-annual reports on findings and recommendations which are then submitted to the Board of County Commissioners.

The Task Force consists of twenty-two (22) members: 8 residents, 2 military, 2 airline, 2 corporate/general aviation, 1 airport, and 7 advisory members. The County Administrator appointed members to the Task Force. Community representatives were recommended to the County Administrator by individual cities. Initial meetings have been dedicated to getting up to speed on the regulatory issues. Watch for more activity in the near future.

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Question 56-
When will the technology for the “Web-based tracking system” be available? Where is it currently used? How effective has it been as a tool for residents?

The flight tracking system will be operational November 2003, and will be available to the public through a link offered on the Airport’s website (www.Fly2PIE.com), and via the Airport Noise & Mitigation website (www.pinellascounty.org/airport).
Airports in Los Angeles, Tampa, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, New Orleans, Boston, San Jose, and Louisville are currently using the flight tracking system.

AirportMonitor ™ has been very effective in providing flight information to the public in a clear, easy to read format. Residents are able to go online to obtain specific flight information (i.e. aircraft type, altitude, direction, etc.), following aircraft noise events. At large airports, Boston-Logan for example, the AirportMonitor ™ page receives thousands of hits each month.

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Question 57-
According to the published website, the Coast Guard station is the busiest in the nation. Do we need to add more noise to the busiest?

The Clearwater Air Station is the largest and busiest Coast Guard station in the nation. We value the Coast Guard presence and believe that commercial service is important to the area as well. The objective is to support these activities while being sensitive to noise impacted communities.

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Question 58-
Can time restrictions be implemented, to say, “no flights between 11pm and 7am? What time restrictions do other regional airports have?
Why pave over one golf course to build a new one a few miles away in Toy Town?

By federal law, the Airport is not authorized to impose curfews that restrict hours of operation. The Airport Noise and Capacity Act, passed in 1990, limits restrictions airports can impose on aircraft operations. Since 1990, no airport within the U.S. has had a curfew approved by the FAA. The only airports with operational curfews are those that were in effect prior to 1990. Airports with restrictions that were grand- fathered by the FAA include: John Wayne, San Jose, Boston-Logan, MacArthur, Las Vegas, San Diego, and Sarasota-Bradenton.

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Question 59-
According to a PIE official, the facility will do routine and repair work on other military helicopters as well as Black Hawks? How many others will be coming in?

Presently, there are 4 Black Hawk helicopters based at PIE. The Army will acquire 4 additional helicopters by the end of the year for a total of 8.

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Question 60-
According to the Reserve Unit, Congressman Young is urging that another unit of Black Hawks (with a Medivac mission) be placed at PIE. Is this true?

No. The Airport has never been approached regarding the addition of a Medivac unit.

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Question 61-
Once all the Federal tax dollars have been spent and the Airport still remains unprofitable, will it turn to cargo to make up the shortfall?

Cargo revenue is only a small portion of the Airport’s operating revenues. Out of an operating revenue budget for FY 2004 of $9.4 million, $310,000 or 3.2% is attributable to revenues from cargo. There are no plans to turn the Airport into a cargo hub.

The airport realizes sufficient operating revenue and grants to defray its operating expenses and therefore does not require a subsidy.

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Question 62-
Wouldn’t a waterfront park or recreation area be of more value to the county’s residents and visitors than an airport and offices?

Airco Golf is a portion of Airport property that was deeded to the County by the Federal Government to support aviation. Airco Golf was originally developed by a private enterprise for profit, and returned to the County at the end of a 40-year lease term. The original lease between the County and Airco Golf provided a source of revenue for Airport operations and provided a maintenance-free land bank of the
property for future Airport related use. The redevelopment of Airco will strengthen Airport revenues and reduce reliance on commercial airline traffic. It will also have a substantial positive economic impact on the county.

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Question 63-
If Whitted Field in St. Petersburg closes, will their operations be moved to St. Petersburg-Clearwater Airport?

It is anticipated that a significant number of aircraft operators would consider relocating to PIE.

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Question 64-
We do not want the airport expanded or rezoned.
In my opinion this is a poor use of 223m$ (=300m$) when a “world class” airport is just 15 minutes away. Nationwide airline capacity is declining (15-20%) and major airlines have just pulled out of Sarasota and Naples, so why do we think they would want to expand operations into Clearwater Airport!!! “If we build it, they will come”??

PIE has increased passenger traffic from 650,000 in 2002 to almost 1 million in 2003. The reason PIE service has not declined is because many of the major carriers dropped direct non-stop service to many destinations and began flying more routes through their hubs. New and low-cost carriers have taken advantage of entering these markets with far less competition. More of these new and low-cost airlines are looking for small, less congested, affordable airports from which to operate to maintain their competitive strategies. Passengers are also looking for convenient and affordable alternatives for travel.

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Question 65-
All this terrible proposed work….Do you propose doing this between midnight and 6am---the last time you did work on the runways, it kept me up every night for 3 weeks…It was a very bad time and I will do anything I can to prevent this from happening.

This has not been determined. We have not begun construction design for any project in the Master Plan or the proposed runway extension project.

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Question 66-
The main question is where is the revenue coming from that is going to repay it?

The airport is expected to operate as an “enterprise” fund – meaning it is to finance its activity from self-generated income. The future revenue will come from a combination of Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT), Passenger Facility Charges (PFC), or Airport funding/financing. None of the funds are to come from local property tax subsidy. If a sufficient level of these revenues is not in place, the projects will not go forward. Also, other projects, such as corporate and general aviation hangar development, in the Master Plan are expected to be funded by private sources.

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Question 67-
Who are these people that are going to be paying us back?

Aviation users pay the Airport by a combination of landing fees, fuel flowage fees, terminal fees, passenger security fees, and rent on hangar leases.

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Question 68-
Do they have enough revenue to be able to support it?

If the grants and business income are adequate to support the individual projects, they will go forward. If the funding is not in hand or forecasted, the projects will not go forward.

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Question 69-
Is there a new terminal in the works in any plan? What about the airport control tower?

The Master Plan identifies the need for a new terminal, due to current space limitations, and a projected increase in passenger traffic. Currently no design plans or construction plans are ‘in the works”.

The Air Traffic Control Tower is owned and maintained by the Federal Aviation Administration. There are no plans for additional improvements or relocation.

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Question 70-
Did you ever try to track the number on a plane going 200 miles per hour?
What about the planes coming in from the south and taking off from the south. Nobody can answer these questions. Who is supposed to be marshalling this program?

The Airport has installed an aircraft flight tracking system on it’s website in early November 2003. Both the Airport and the general may access information